From 5 August 2010-- In discussion yesterday with one of my house mates- topic: that the entire USA immigration issue ("give AriXona to China!") boils down to a white guy's artificial "line in the sand" aka "national border"; that all lines on the ground and the surveyors behind them are always white guy (not girl) issues and. . .and. . .lines are always phallic!; thus this is merely yet another pissing contest with endowment challenged gun and missile totting pickup truck owners. (Dont get me started on the psychic/phallic/coital implications of a 390 "horse power" "RAM" "King XL Cab" chariot. Nor let us remember the peoples who sit just outside of memory from whom the line choppers stole the precious sand/land from in the "first" place, and "the peoples", no doubt took it from others well beyond memory.)
Then, given the long long (XL) list of symbolic phallic poles/ lines/ rulers wrapped in much less well defined (the female "point"! ofcourse) not-so ersatz vulvic banners/ earth/ crowns - starting with the supremely holy local fabric&pole combo to which my children must pledge allegiance to "under God" in Unistasia; note that the long scroll of the Torah is wrapped around two of said pole thingies; Muslim minarets in Switzerland are completely different than Christian steeples, not!; capitalized corporate acronyms and initial letters with the balance of the Name waving out behind - you see where I am going? No? So then, not to mention paying largely male players millions of u$d or equivalent to move a seed-like object down a field/ court/ campo santo through a net/ gate/ hoop/ Goal! - against another rapier thrusting team of similar persuasion, praying the same victory prayer at the other end of the campo. Nor plugging away with a long metal Scottish stick to knock a small white sphere into a hole/cup that . . .yes, true. . .already has a flag/pole/stick in it. Best of all, we can distract the great multitude absolutely "all the time" by these inane Spectacles validated solely by our genetics and genitalia - genuflection indeed.
So, question my Jungian friend - may Carl rest well - are ALL symbols themselves phallic and the wrapper is the ineffable understanding tailing out behind for which we seek and fail? Or should I ask Emma? I am tired of "pussy footing" around while idiot Rome burns.
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Notes on photo above: 2009 David NcNew/Getty Images - A recently constructed section of the controversial US-Mexico border fence expansion project crosses previously pristine desert sands at sunrise on March 14, 2009 between Yuma, Arizona and Calexico, California. A top Homeland Security official told a House panel that the department could ultimately respond to escalating violence of warring Mexican drug cartels by deploying military personnel and equipment to the region. 6,290 people were killed in the violence in Mexico in 2008, according to Mexican officials, and more than 1,000 in the first eight weeks of this year. Hundreds of kidnappings in Phoenix during the same time period were blamed on the drug trade. The new barrier between the US and Mexico stands 15 feet tall and sits on top of the sand so it can lifted by a machine and repositioned whenever the migrating desert dunes begin to bury it. The almost seven miles of floating fence cost about $6 million per mile to build. Zimbio March 14, 2009
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Dr. Fabio replies- Thanks for writing, sorry to take a minute getting back. Hope you are well.
All
conditions can be interpreted for their phallic as well as yonic
content. Once you are in the realm or symbols you are hitting into the
ouroborus: the whole system: everything is everything.
So there is room for interpreting everything through
the phallus. Though I would have to say that the mother supports the
phallus, and that the phallus is a more recent phenomenon in the
dreaming: the phallus is civilizing: it's primary role is to demarcate:
even the ritual incision/circumcision: is intended to set the phallus off from the literal world of genitalia: it becomes a metaphor: this is
what the father does: he turns basic instinctual drive into metaphor.
The phallus in its essence moves away from incest...
So that's a start! Be well, and let's get together to speak soon
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Frater Holme replies- First, may I append your comment to my blog? Then, Googling "phallus demarcation" your genius synonym - I find among many others - this one, spot on to my question:
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~ hwaa/hermes.html "It seems that Hermes is an ancient god of the countryside, whose name derived from the Greek word έρμα (herma) or ερμαίον (hermaion), meaning 'a heap of stones'. The function of these stone-heaps was to demarcate the land. Another form of territorial demarcation is phallic display, which is then symbolically replaced by erected stones or stakes. To this extent, stone-heap and apotropaic phallos have always gone together."
So, my question/problem - it is one thing that, per Jung, the archetypal symbols arise and re-arise in harmless dreams and semi-harmless religious iconography. But my concern is where the arising old DNA wrap into everyday symbol creates, maybe forces, human chaos, death, murder - where we, by revealing the "obvious" symbolic blackmail, just might reduce the suffering of the blind -
examples - OK, my diatribe on the USA's demarcation "Wall"; or, so much greater, the argument re: medieval Eucharist apparently sent 100,000s to their death at the "stake". Does shouting that those symbols are not the eternity saving blood/body of nonexisting Jesus Christ, but rather the ancient ancient menstrual envy (blood sacrifices on phallic heap of stones) and certain semen/wheat symbols - just might have made difference between life and death - fatwa where are you?
Or the differences between the Byzantium Blues' and Greens' and their chariot races in the U-shaped Hippodrome that end in the deaths of 30,000 in an afternoon - racing your pickup trucks/horses around the
"rose bowl" - I think no one pays attention to the obvious looming symbols - as a fish is to water - this are not dream, not holy icons - just normal everyday stuff - that kills and maims.
Even worst, that the knowledgable (seem to) control/distract the populace by encouraging such DNA level phallic/yoni Spectacle / controversy - lemmings at the ready. Sorry this comes off as a raving lunatic - for it is the moon that causes the problem. (Certainly you found this related raving:http://www.fraterholme. com/2009/04/cantos-cunnus- 2005.html).
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~
So, my question/problem - it is one thing that, per Jung, the archetypal symbols arise and re-arise in harmless dreams and semi-harmless religious iconography. But my concern is where the arising old DNA wrap into everyday symbol creates, maybe forces, human chaos, death, murder - where we, by revealing the "obvious" symbolic blackmail, just might reduce the suffering of the blind -
examples - OK, my diatribe on the USA's demarcation "Wall"; or, so much greater, the argument re: medieval Eucharist apparently sent 100,000s to their death at the "stake". Does shouting that those symbols are not the eternity saving blood/body of nonexisting Jesus Christ, but rather the ancient ancient menstrual envy (blood sacrifices on phallic heap of stones) and certain semen/wheat symbols - just might have made difference between life and death - fatwa where are you?
Or the differences between the Byzantium Blues' and Greens' and their chariot races in the U-shaped Hippodrome that end in the deaths of 30,000 in an afternoon - racing your pickup trucks/horses around the
"rose bowl" - I think no one pays attention to the obvious looming symbols - as a fish is to water - this are not dream, not holy icons - just normal everyday stuff - that kills and maims.
Even worst, that the knowledgable (seem to) control/distract the populace by encouraging such DNA level phallic/yoni Spectacle / controversy - lemmings at the ready. Sorry this comes off as a raving lunatic - for it is the moon that causes the problem. (Certainly you found this related raving:http://www.fraterholme.
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Dr Fabio replies-
Here are some mad responses for you, taken in good cheer:
Phallus taken literally kills: incests.
The phallus grows in power through successful iterations of abstinence, deferral and metaphor.
But that metaphor either dies out, bone dry dessicate, or it becomes the wound is re-opened, the circumcision wounding-grounding-humbling.
The quality of the mark-- from the stone tumulus to the incision-- demarcates savage nature from: Kei-wa: literally "Shiva" -- which is understood as "civilization," "that which is held tender, dear,"-- that demarcation is at times vulnerable: though we defend it with the weight of the American military-industrial complex. The task remains the opening of the wound: becoming vulnerable again: it's the best we can do.
Dreams are dreams: neither harmless nor harmful: they are the pharmakon to life's banality much as they seem to produce it: what matters is the degree to which we can shape the nature of dreams: not merely that dreams exist: and that we do this "shaping" with conscience.
Thus: not only the dream-- but, "I spoke the dream, and saved my soul."
Maybe no one needs saving, but, my friend, I do believe these are endangered times. We have ideals of freedom, liberation, and liberation-lived-as-democracy; and because they are ideals they are constantly endangered. -here endth the dialogue with Dr. Fabio on 19 September 2010
Here are some mad responses for you, taken in good cheer:
Phallus taken literally kills: incests.
The phallus grows in power through successful iterations of abstinence, deferral and metaphor.
But that metaphor either dies out, bone dry dessicate, or it becomes the wound is re-opened, the circumcision wounding-grounding-humbling.
The quality of the mark-- from the stone tumulus to the incision-- demarcates savage nature from: Kei-wa: literally "Shiva" -- which is understood as "civilization," "that which is held tender, dear,"-- that demarcation is at times vulnerable: though we defend it with the weight of the American military-industrial complex. The task remains the opening of the wound: becoming vulnerable again: it's the best we can do.
Dreams are dreams: neither harmless nor harmful: they are the pharmakon to life's banality much as they seem to produce it: what matters is the degree to which we can shape the nature of dreams: not merely that dreams exist: and that we do this "shaping" with conscience.
Thus: not only the dream-- but, "I spoke the dream, and saved my soul."
Maybe no one needs saving, but, my friend, I do believe these are endangered times. We have ideals of freedom, liberation, and liberation-lived-as-democracy; and because they are ideals they are constantly endangered. -here endth the dialogue with Dr. Fabio on 19 September 2010
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"Imagine a world without borders. No visas or passport checks. Without the fear of the 'immigrant'. A world where we really embrace cultural diversity. How rich our lives would be." - posted on 15th March 2012 by warmpoison Good idea or better idea?
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I've noticed that tendency with the symbolism.
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